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“I wouldn’t give anything for the simplicity on this side of complexity. I’d give my life for the informed simplicity of the far side of complexity.” - Adam Robinson. Email me at jordanthecounselor@gmail.com
“I wouldn’t give anything for the simplicity on this side of complexity. I’d give my life for the informed simplicity of the far side of complexity.” - Adam Robinson. Email me at jordanthecounselor@gmail.com
Episodes

Tuesday Sep 03, 2019
EP 27: Debbie Pridemore on Attachment theory, Therapy, and Christianity
Tuesday Sep 03, 2019
Tuesday Sep 03, 2019
"[Attachment] it's a protection systems that's built into our bodies, so when that's in distress, like with a couple, and you don't know if that person has your back, you don't know if you're safe with that person, or that person becomes a threat, then we go into survival mode. Literally our body goes into a fight-flight freeze response because we don't know if we're safe, we don't have that other person to keep us safe, to help us watch for danger, and to protect us when there's danger there."
View on YouTube
Contact Debbie Here:debbie@thejoshuacenter.com
P.S. If you enjoyed this episode, check out my conversation with Deb Dana. She talks about polyvagal theory.

Friday Jul 26, 2019
EP 26: Alan Berkowitz on using Social Norms for Social Change
Friday Jul 26, 2019
Friday Jul 26, 2019
"We go through life underestimating the goodness of human beings and we overestimating the negative and then it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy."

Learn more about Alan here: www.alanberkowitz.com
Get his EXCELLENT book here:
P.S. If you enjoyed this check out my conversation with Lisa Diamond, she's another changing social norms.

Monday Jun 24, 2019
EP 25: Connirae Andreas and Awakening the Wisdom Within
Monday Jun 24, 2019
Monday Jun 24, 2019
Watch on Youtube:, follow on Medium:,Listen on iTunes:
"It can't be imposed on someone. It's for everyone who's interested in a better life."
Connirae Andreas is the last of the mavericks. There was a time in the world of psychotherapy when the field was advanced by people unafraid to ask bold questions and make even bolder moves. Much of modern day hypnosis and NLP was born during this time. In the thick of it all sat Connirae Andreas adding her unique blend to the process of change and personal evolution. She brings that maverick spirit into her newest work- the Wholeness Process. Connirae is not just dedicated to helping people solve problems, she's hoping to evolve the soul. And she's developed the approaches to do it.
In this episode we talk about:
- How her newest work was birthed out of her own emotional and physical health crises.
- How she brought NLP modeling skills to eastern philosophy
- How you can use the power of awareness for your own healing the evolution
Feel free to pick up a copy of the book, check out her online trainings or live trainings.
PS: if you enjoyed this episode check out my interview with Stephen Gilligan. He's another NLP/Hypnosis practitioner who's interested in evolving the soul.

Tuesday Jun 18, 2019
Name change and new directions!
Tuesday Jun 18, 2019
Tuesday Jun 18, 2019
Hello!
I'm pleased to announce the Informed Simplicity Project!

This project is all about mastery in the field of psychotherapy. Part of this project will be same- I'll still be interviewing amazing guest in the field of psychotherapy. And part of this podcast will be very different. You'll have access to book reviews (such as Anne Herrington's Mind Fixers) and curated content from around the web. This is no longer just for students in an online program, now it's for students of the field of psychotherapy.
So, make sure to subscribe.
and
look for videos and more on medium: https://medium.com/@informedsimplicity

Wednesday May 29, 2019
EP 24: James Hawkins, Ph.D on Racial Reconciliation
Wednesday May 29, 2019
Wednesday May 29, 2019
"I hear so many political pundits and talking heads now and when they talk about reconciliation or why there's is disproportionate levels of income and crime rates and all of these things now and they'll point to things such as 'well it's because of single motherhood' or 'lack of fathers in african america or minority communities'... okay that's fine, but that didn't just happen overnight. There's a reasons. I never hear anyone talk about reason and there's a reason."
"Some people may think I'm only doing this, Jordan, for minorities, but that's not true. I believe we're all trapped by this trauma."
James Hawkins: soldier, healer, pastor, prophet. James and I first got connected when I found out about his work with racial reconciliation in christian communities. As someone with my own troubled relationship with the church and a deep investment in racial healing I was enthralled. Since then I've had the opportunity to attend one of his trainings. Wow. His approach is direct and kind, confronting and compassionate. If you're looking for a diversity trainer he should be on your short list. And on your short list he should be at the top.
In this episode we talk about:
- The parallels between racial reconciliation and marital affairs.
- Why he's specializes in working with christians and reconciliation.
- The need for prophetic lament.
- Why christians can't ignore racial divisions and be congruent with the message of the bible.
Find out more about James at:
https://amoreexcellentwayrelationship.com/
Listen here on iTunes
or
check us out on PODCAST ADDICT
PS: if you enjoyed this episode check out my interview with Noelle. She also talks about social justice.

Thursday May 02, 2019
EP 23: Dr. Anabelle Bugatti on excellence in EFT
Thursday May 02, 2019
Thursday May 02, 2019
If you really want to be a superior therapist then you got to keep getting trained. And you can, and it it will show up... I really care about not just being a good therapist, but an amazing therapist.

Anabelle Bugatti first popped onto my radar through her interview with George Faller. They spent an hour dissecting the nuances of working through client anger in ways which validate and transform rather than dismiss and invalidate. It was a phenomenal interview. As I watched that and her other interviews, two things become very clear, very quickly. First, she is dedicated to becoming one of the best. Second, she's brave enough to ask the questions we all think, but rather not ask. Both are qualities I admire. In our far ranging talk we discussed:
- How attachment theory is about more than just bonding
- How she began her YouTube channel
- Her best advice for students
Find out more about her here.
Listen here on iTunes
or
check us out on PODCAST ADDICT
PS: if you enjoyed this episode check out my interview with Wesley Little. She's my favorite EFT Blogger.

Monday Apr 08, 2019
EP 22: Adam Mathews and the Digital Future of Therapy
Monday Apr 08, 2019
Monday Apr 08, 2019
"Most online schools, that are accredited, have a thousand people in their master's program getting online degrees, and so to then say that we don't do online therapy is kind of ludacris. And we don't teach how to do online therapy well, that's kinda ludacris as well."
Adam Mathews was my first supervisor. As I was grinding away as an In-Home therapist I watched him transition smoothly from the world of managed care into private practice. Since then his online presence as a therapist has only grown. He has a wonderful website, a sex therapy podcast, and generally is slowly dominating the world. So when I wondered who could speak to practice building in a way that was practical for the digital age, I knew who I had to talk to.
In this episode we talk about:
- The three keys every therapist needs to know for building their online presence
- His must read list for building a private practice
- Why he doesn't do group therapy, (and what he does instead)
Listen here on iTunes
or
check us out on PODCAST ADDICT
PS: if you enjoyed this episode check out my interview with Alexis Dubief. She's in influencer and changer maker who also talks about online presence for therapist.

Thursday Mar 07, 2019
EP 21: Alex Vaz on Becoming a Practitioner Researcher
Thursday Mar 07, 2019
Thursday Mar 07, 2019

"It's not that we're doing nothing. It's that a lot of the things we're focusing on {don't} seem to map to outcomes."
After talking with Alex I got the sense that if we weren't divided by an ocean we'd be good friends. Living in Lisbon, Portugal he does a little of everything, teaching, research, practice, etc. He first appeared on my radar after I stumbled upon his amazing youtube series for therapist: Psychotherapy Expert Talks where he interviews top therapist and researchers in the field. Not only is he super friendly and incredibly welcoming, he is also uniquely knowledgeable about therapy. In this episode we talk about
- How explanations and rationals can dramatically improve your outcomes
- The top therapist/ researcher he knows
- Why models don't matter, and you should still pick one
- and much much more
PS if you enjoyed this episode check out this episode with Scott Miller. He's another one on the frontier of the field.
Listen HERE on iTunes

Thursday Feb 14, 2019
Ep 20: Scott Miller and What it Takes To Be a Better Therapist
Thursday Feb 14, 2019
Thursday Feb 14, 2019
- His work with the founders of SFBT and why the group split up.
- How many sessions the average client comes to therapy.
- The importance of tracking outcomes
- The surprising research on which therapies are most effective
- How therapy needs to return it it's magickal roots.
If you enjoyed this check out this episode on what separates great therapists from average therapists.
If you'd like to learn more about Scott check out his website, or read his article How Psychotherapy Lost it's Magick (it will blow you away). For more on tracking your outcomes check out his books Deliberate Practice for Psychotherapist or The Cycle of Excellence, and his FREE outcome measures.
If after all this you still want more his new book Better Results comes out in September. Until then pick up a copy of Peak, its book about becoming the best, and it reads like a novel.

Thursday Jan 31, 2019
EP 19: Denise Walker, A.B.D. on In-home Therapy
Thursday Jan 31, 2019
Thursday Jan 31, 2019
"How can we educate anybody when they have so much more going on outside of these 6.5 - 7 seven hours of school?"
Denise Walker is one of the few therapist I've seen work. Her ability to connect with teenagers is something to behold. Because of this unique ability, and because of her years of experience working in client's homes, I decided to reach out to her. As you listen, pay special attention to her passion for education, especially for those forgotten and overlooked.
In this episode we talk about:
- How she started working with youth
- The challenges of in-home therapy, especially when most programs train clinicians for the private practice world
- What a typical week looks like when you're working inhome
And much more...
PS. If you enjoyed this episode check out my interview with Noelle Zamunido. She's another with a passion for the disenfranchised.
Listen HERE on iTunes
or
search Behind the Mirror on Podcast Addict (for androids)

"[Attachment] it's a protection systems that's built into our bodies, so when that's in distress, like with a couple, and you don't know if that person has your back, you don't know if you're safe with that person, or that person becomes a threat, then we go into survival mode. Literally our body goes into a fight-flight freeze response because we don't know if we're safe, we don't have that other person to keep us safe, to help us watch for danger, and to protect us when there's danger there."